new 5x5 method?

[therubikscuber]

i doubt im the first to come up with this method, but i thought of it while messing around with my 5x5. and to be honest all it is is a more complicated version of redux, but i thought id share it.

step 1: solve centers
step 2: create a cross. solve 4 tredges with a common color
step 3: finish f4l. create c/t pairs and insert them
step 4: ll. there are 4 more tredges to solve before you can use a traditional ll system, i used the parity alg, but i sure there are better ways to go about solving them.

alternative to step 3: instead of solving f4l using c/t pairs, you could insert single tredge pieces into the slots, although this would most likely be even slower.


i am aware of the fact that this method is very extraneous or has extraneous steps, causing it to need a high number of turns (making it slower). but i was just messing around with new solutions, hoping i blindly stumble upon a good one.

[TehCheezeIts]

Sounds like a slow variant of K4 for the 5x5x5.

[therubikscuber]

after doing a little bit of research on k4, this does seem to be a more restrictive version of k4 for the 5x5.

i am thinking about using a lbl approach to big cubes after discovering this and reading about k4.

[TehCheezeIts]

Yah, I use K4 for 4x4x4 and 5x5x5. Go figure. I use Roux.

[therubikscuber]

could you point me in the direction of some good info on the ll?

[TehCheezeIts]

http://snk.digibase.ca/k4/6.htm

That's step 6. You want 6 and 7. That's the text tut from the guy who created k4. You're not gunna get better than that.

Just keep in mind, k4 is open source. I use a freestyle LL. He uses algs. You could really do whatever for the LL. As long as it follows the basic idea.

[therubikscuber]

freestyle meaning you use commutators?

[TehCheezeIts]

Freestyle [IMO] = Using commutators that you make up as you go.

[therubikscuber]

so you just wing the ll?

[TehCheezeIts]

Exactly. My only real algorithm is a J/Tperm. I use one or the other depending; I try to influence the edges as much as I can when I two-step the corners.

[therubikscuber]

for the edges, do you use a redux style (pair an edge, and replace it with an unpaired edge, then fix centers)? or a more alg based style (not necessarily use algs, but use a less intuitive approach)?

[TehCheezeIts]

Less intuitive.

For the K4 method, the whole first layer is already done. For the K5 (?) method, instead of finishing F3L, it's F4L. So the corners are already done. I just use and intuitive method for MODIFYING non-intuitive LBL algs.