From noober cuber to UBER CUBER!

[user_name]

i know what 4LLL is. and also, i'm not looking for minimal algs necessarily, but rather the most optimal 4LLL

[Tanner(MOSHMAN)]

yeah wat is 4LLL? well this is a really good helpful post

[lotsofsloths]

Sloths, unstickie this, its not THAT important... you stickie way to much! Take it down....

I agree that he stickies too much but i also agree w/ nasa for this particular thread.


Also, can someone give me a link to 4LLL that's not a video and isn't this link: http://www.geocities.com/rubiks_galaxia/4lookLL.html

Whats wrong about that link!?
That geocities link was AMAZING!
Its the most simple as you can get!

I agree with Nasa.

Also, Zero, I know PLLs should be learned first, but I was curious why they should be learned so much earlier.

Because they take longer to perfect.

[Flame838]

Sloths, unstickie this, its not THAT important... you stickie way to much! Take it down....

I agree that he stickies too much but i also agree w/ nasa for this particular thread.


Also, can someone give me a link to 4LLL that's not a video and isn't this link: http://www.geocities.com/rubiks_galaxia/4lookLL.html

Yea 4LLL is just a shorter but slower version of frdrich LL.  First you get the cross, then the whole top face, then permute the edges and finally the corners.

[Tanner(MOSHMAN)]

ok well i guess when i get fridrich il try it

[user_name]

Sloths, unstickie this, its not THAT important... you stickie way to much! Take it down....

I agree that he stickies too much but i also agree w/ nasa for this particular thread.


Also, can someone give me a link to 4LLL that's not a video and isn't this link: http://www.geocities.com/rubiks_galaxia/4lookLL.html

Whats wrong about that link!?
That geocities link was AMAZING!
Its the most simple as you can get!

I agree with Nasa.

Also, Zero, I know PLLs should be learned first, but I was curious why they should be learned so much earlier.

Because they take longer to perfect.

yes, it's a good link, but it has 14 algs + you need 3 algs to orient edges that aren't on that page (i know them though, so it's fine). but that makes 17 algs and i though you only needed 16... so can some1 explain that?

[Tanner(MOSHMAN)]

sorry dont know how

[FTF]

yes, it's a good link, but it has 14 algs + you need 3 algs to orient edges that aren't on that page (i know them though, so it's fine). but that makes 17 algs and i though you only needed 16... so can some1 explain that?

Yeah, it's because they include both A-perms. Those are the corner three-cycles, and you only need one of them for an effective 4LLL.

Also, I like the Y-perm better than the E-perm for the last case, because it's fairly easy, and includes two "free" OLLs.

[user_name]

for the A-perms, can you just make a turn on the U face if it's the wrong one and then it'll be the right A-perm and then it's just another turn of the U at the end? (if that makes any sense)

[Thrawst]

i'd say for sub-20:

"focus on mastering your method of choice"
(not everyone uses Friedrich for LL)

[¿ËrRØR»8)]

exactly thwrast
so what should i do?
i use petrus

[¿ËrRØR»8)]

hey sloths
i saw a video of you solving the cube
and i wanted to know how do you solve that fast?
besides practice

[FTF]

for the A-perms, can you just make a turn on the U face if it's the wrong one and then it'll be the right A-perm and then it's just another turn of the U at the end? (if that makes any sense)

Nah, one's clockwise and one is counterclockwise. However, both will permute all of the corners correctly whenever a Y- or E- perm won't (i.e. whenever two adjacent corners can be solved together with just U turns). The only thing is, if you happen to do the wrong one, it'll change the edge permutation around a bit.

Error: There's no magic cubing potion, you know.  As far as I know, he uses a 3LLL and Fridrich F2L. And maybe trying out multislotting? I don't know. I think the major thing is, indeed, practice.

[¿ËrRØR»8)]

darn it
where the heck is the magic potion when you need it

[lotsofsloths]

Could you link me to the video?
I actually use 3LLL, but I am slowly converting to 2 LLL.